i just learned that one of my grandsons (whom i've never met) will be baptized on saturday.
he will be twelve in november.
what's happening within the publishing company to inspire this sort of thing?
What is the minimum age requirement for a male to be appointed to serve in a certain capacity, such as a ministerial servant? How about a female if she were to decided to pioneer six months after she gets baptized?
I can see it now. Ten year old pioneers with some 16 year old ministerial servants taking the lead on a Saturday morning field service routine.
Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
hey everybody.
when i was a witness one thing that drove me crazy was getting counsel from elders shooting personal opinions off their hip like it was from jehovah god himself.
how many times at assemblies, wt articles, etc.
I knew an elder that hated sisters wearing jean skirts the meetings or on the ministry.
I know a MS who was currently trying to enforce this rule. (BTW, he really has the itch to become an elder. In fact, that's all he talks about). He feels as if wearing denim means that it isn't good enough for Jehovah.
I told him that this sister whom he was referring to "is a poor pioneer living on her own and is just scraping by to make a half way decent living and is making every effort to be regular to all the meetings and to pioneer. Why even think about her skirt being made from denim? Would Jesus even go there? No! Why? Because of love".
Needless to say, this MS had nothing to say after that. He needed a lesson on how to have the mind of Christ.
Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
i just learned that one of my grandsons (whom i've never met) will be baptized on saturday.
he will be twelve in november.
what's happening within the publishing company to inspire this sort of thing?
Great and inspiring Smiles_Smiles!
More power to you and your daughter.
Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
i mean would it be likely that near future all correspondence and letters could come thru a secure connection, presented verbally to elders by the co or do, or in secure digital format that would be able to trace all users and readers -so that it can be kept out of our hands?.
i am not a technical person in that regard - but it would seem possible that this could be done.
true - fading elders would get access - but if there is a digital trail in the system - if it finds it 's way to jwd or other places - they could soon hunt down the culprits.
In our KH, some publisher donated a computer last summer to the congregations sharing the hall.
It still isn't hooked up yet.
Why? I don't know. Maybe the body of elders needed a two-thirds vote among themselves in the affirmative in order to have it up and running.
Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
this is only a few minutes long, but i thought people might be interested in viewing it.
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http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=33bf935e94036b41979b&page=8&viewtype=&category=mr
Where is this District Convention site?
I'm guessing, but it looks like Qualcomm Stadium in San Diego, California U.S.A.
Can someone verify this?
Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
the scotsman said:.
<< tee hee - dubs will believe anything, lol.>>.
that's good because you shouldn't believe everything you hear in this world.
Have you not heard how bad the internet is, why are you posting here when you know it could get you into serious trouble?
This only goes to show that there are many JWs out there that are lurking/posting on many many many discussion boards.
Proving otherwise that the R&F JW DO NOT always listen and believe what the GB in NY has to say about anything.
Curiousity, doubts, unwavering faith in the leadings of the headship in Brooklyn, bad experiences with the organization...etc. These and other factors have fueled the minds of almost every JW in wondering what else can happen next, to them or to the WTS. Thus, perusing on discussion boards as this. On the otherhand, die-hard JWs stumble on such discussion boards as this when surfing on the internet among the JW web ring blogs.
It's a good thing...."to make sure of all things". (1Thessalonians 5:21)
So, all active JWs out there, apply that scripture in all areas of life. Even your faith!
Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
i think it's pretty simple.
jws will never completely die out.
because there are always going to be people who stay in a rut, don't like to adjust, are lazy.
This organization will splint off into splinter groups as the decades and centuries go by.
Just look at its history.
Bible Students : http://www.biblestudents.net along with their various factions and offshoots.
True Faith Jehovah's Witnesses : http://the-true-jw.oltenia.ro/index.html
And how many former JWs have their own groups, but still believe in many of the core doctrines of JWs (such as e-watchman)?
The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society will always exist to a degree. But as long as it does, it will give birth to many other branches.
Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
the governing body has much control over the lives, thoughts, actions, etc..of many.
i was thinking of the "new light" policy and this gives the gb virtually unlimited power to do what they want.. take this for instance: we know how doctrines such as no trinity, no hellfire, and no immortal soul, are all considered the core beliefs that will never change.
lets just that today the gb just happens to reverse them all...what would happen?
About 10% ~ 20% of JWs believe "everything single thing" that they are taught from the GB in NY.
The rest have doubts in one way or another. I'm sure that many of us do/did.
Most JWs believe what the entire Bible teaches, but not everything what the GB teaches. If the R&F aren't sure about an issue, they may opt to try and understand the reasoning from the GB. From that point, they are willing to accept such teachings. However, some may have doubts and will still harbor these.
For example, I mentioned to several in the congregation about Jesus being our Mediator. They agree because that is what the Bible says. When I told them and directed them to the WT articles and Insight Book saying that Jesus was mediator only for the annointed, they acknowledged that fact as WTS reasoning, but they still didn't believe that Jesus wasn't their personal mediator and Savior.
There are many issues and a variety of teachings in WTS theology. If you were to lump them all together, honestly you will only find 10%-20% of all JWs who believe every single tidbit of it. If you were to filter out any who don't believe, then you'll have various ones who can't line up the Bible's reasoning with the WTS.
They only doctrines that almost every single JW believes in is the non-Trinitarian view, no Hellfire, no immortal soul and living forever either in heaven or on earth. Funny, isn't it? These teachings that haven't changed since the conception of this religion are the teachings that most Christian religions don't accept. The core doctrines of what JWs don't believe in are the ones that never change. All the other "understandings" are just that, understanding. Not truth. Truth and understanding are two different things.
Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
usually mid afternoon, even ten minutes can rejuvenate.
if only more employers realized that employee productivity and work quality would be improved with a 30 min siesta.. i can grab a nap just about anywhere.
when i was traveling by air a lot i could fall asleep during take off.
A nap is sooo refreshing....(the real truth is ...I'm getting old! lol)
Oh how true!
The older I'm getting, the more I look forward to naps. I remember being in my late teens and mid-twenties where I can go on with only two or three hours of sleep a night. I'd work all day, go out with friends till the wee hours of the morning and then would go home to catch a few winks. Then I'd wake up and head off to work to start at 6:00am. I would do this again and again, day after day.
Now my naps are more like two or three hours!
Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
the many years i was in the 'truth' i've never known what was taught at gilead that made them so 'special'.
has anyone here ever been to gilead or know what goes on there?
i't was something i have always been curious about.
Has anyone here ever been to Gilead or know what goes on there?
A poster here that goes by the name "AllTimeJeff" graduated from Gilead and went to his assignment with his wife. However, he is on the way out from the WTS now. See his post and thread about his experience. I found it very enlightening about the inside workings of the WTS and their missionary school of Gilead.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/128220/1.ashx
Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
